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> When a person purchases bread from a
baker who is a common person in
> surya and [the baker] tells him: "I
separated Halla," [the purchaser]
> does not need to separate Halla
because of the doubt. Just as the
> entire Jewish people in ‘araS
yisra’el were not suspect [to ignore the
> separation of] the great taruma, so
too, in surya, they were not
> suspect [to ignore the separation of]
Halla. When a person purchases
> [bread] from a baker outside of the
Land, he must separate Halla
> because of the doubt involved. If,
however, he purchases from a
> private person - and needless to say,
if he enjoys his hospitality -
> he is not required to separate Halla
because of the doubt.
> -----
> From what I understand, separating
Halla is only required of bread in
> ‘araS yisra’el and only during the
time when there can be yobhel, min
> hattora; And that Jewish bread in the
Diaspora and bread in ‘araS
> yisra’el when there cannot be yobhel,
Halla must be separated only middibhreham.
OK.
> This seems to be saying that in any
case, when buying from a private
> person or enjoying someone’s
hospitality, one does not separate Halla.
As a guest, OK, according to what RMBM says; as a buyer, I do
not agree. Unfortunately, the Ashkenazic custom has been that Hallah has
NEVER EVER been taken as required, so you must assume that all Jews who
bake quantities of bread that require Hallah need to have Hallah taken by
you from their bread, whether buying or just visiting. And by the way, the
bakeries here in Israel live by the Ashkenazic custom and do not take
Hallah as required EVER! ALL Israeli bread and ALL bread of Jews where you
are must be assumed to be forbiddent to eat till you take out the Hallah.
> This seems to be saying that if one
is in the Diaspora, if one buys
> from a baker who is a Jewish `am
ha’araS, one is required to separate
> Halla because of the doubt.
> But in surya, this is not required,
thus making me think that in ‘araS
> yisra’el this is not required.
No! It is a matter of objective fact: NO BAKER in Israel
behaves according to what is written in M"T (or even what is written in
Sh"`A.
> The Torah does not require a minimum,
but the Rabbinic minimums are
> 1/24th for private and 1/48th for
selling,
No, at this time, all are to take 1/48.
> thus I assume if one buys bread from
a `am ha’araS Baker in the
> Diaspora, one must separate 1/48th
and not 1/24th as he would from
> bread he bakes himself.
No, 1/48 at home for you, too!
> Of course, in the case when one is
eating/buying non-Jewish bread, Halla is not separated.
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One must use a minimum of an `omar of flour of wheat barley,
rye, oats, and/or spelt Or he doesn't separate Halla.
Halla is only separated from path yisra'el.
In the Diaspora, one Halla is separated which is 1/48 and it
is given to a kohen who is pure from impurity that results from a physical
conditions only, not things such as Tum'ath meth. It is not burnt.
Regarding doubts on bakeries:
If one is in the Diaspora, if one buys from a baker who is a
Jewish `am ha’araS, one is required to separate Halla because of the
doubt.
Regarding path goyim, from which no Halla is separated, see
ma'akhaloth 'asuroth 17:12-13